Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor

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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs

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Lasers are fine.

What people are really complaingin about is:

Scorch M/L

But imo they are ok, its just other T2 ammo that bites so hard.

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This really. Especially T2 close range ammo for both projectiles and hybrids suck donkey balls.

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Originally by: slightly sillydude

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Scorch M and L are way over the top imo. Especially considering the tracking. Medium get 20 something optimal and large get 40 something with no optimal bonuses or mods. In what sense is that close range ammo?

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Originally by: Dristra

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This thread the failure is complete, something happens, we look at circumstances and I propose thing.

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Originally by: James Lyrus

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Originally by: Cpt Branko

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Long range setups got flat out better, of course, as burning to >150km is no longer so easy.

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Hmm. That's a good point, and... actaully generally I don't mind a bit of reason to have tactical mobility during a fight.

But it does rather highlight that artillery is rather horrible.

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Originally by: Megan Maynard

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A lot of minmatar hate being thrown around.

I'd like to remind everyone that the rupture is capable of 500 dps, and that arties alpha higher then any other weapons platform.

But you know, according to everyone (Liang and Astro) projectiles suck.

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Originally by: SuiJuris

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Edited by: SuiJuris on 14/09/2009 16:27:39
FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME QUIT COMPAIRING ANYTHING TO LARGE PROJECTILES, they are hopelessly broken and any weapon when compaired to them looks amazing.

For the people who Want balance, Projectiles need fixed altogether (at the battleship lvl)

On another lvl the only reason a Abaddon would beat a Megathron in a 1v1 is the MASSIVE tank and the Abaddon still wouldn't win if the Megathron had enough common sense to fit a single large Neut, Case and Point in a friendly 1v1 with a corp mate I put a Geddon, standard fit against his Abaddon 1v1, I lost but he was in 10% armor because he couldn't keep his guns running.

At the battleship lvl nothing but EHP and DPS matters though right? Cause Heavy Neuts arn't useful for anything, nor are Tracking disruptors in those extra mids that other races have, nor is having enough midslots for dual eccm.

Amarr is the Slugfest race, Thats all the tricks they have at the tech 1 lvl, Get into range and slug it out. shouldn't they be good at it?

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Originally by: Twilight Mourning

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I would support a slight nerf to lazors if in exchange they made their cap usage along the same lines as other races and gave Amarr ships back their wasted ship bonus that is there JUST so they can use lazors. You don't see Gallente ships wasting a bonus just so it can use a blaster. Or Minmatard ships wasting a bonus JUST so it can use it's racial weapon.

That being said, I think Lazors are fine. It just makes other races have to think how they fight the Amarr.

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Originally by: Confessor

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GAT A BUNCH OF FRIGGIN CRY BABIES. It MUST be the fact that most of you whiners didnt play eve for the last 3 -4 years. Amarr was completly laughable until last year when it was brought to bear with the other 3 races. Get a friggin grip on your joystick and quit *****ing about amarr and PLAY.

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Originally by: NightmareX

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Edited by: NightmareX on 22/09/2009 13:51:16

Originally by: Stil Harkonnen

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Originally by: Princess Misha

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Amarr ships and weapons are perfectly fine. T2 ammo are not.

true scorch is a blessing but remember a few years back everyone laught at mid-range engagements.

So maybe insted of current T2 ammo : they may boost range (pulse) and damage (beam), tracking (blaster) and damage (rails) and fall off (auto) and damage (artillery).

Remove all the unnecessary drawbacks and damage boost on close-reange ammo while the long range ammo becomes more of an alpha strike modifying ammo, increase both damage and rate of fire. Samilar dps in all T2 ammo but offering differnt tactical options

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i would say buff blaster damage instead of blaster tracking. I like the tracking, but blasters don't do enough more damage than lasers do to make up for the far inferior range.

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Uhm. Do you really think before you say buff Blasters damage?.

Do you even know what will happen if CCP buff the DPS output on Blasters?. If no, then stop asking for something that will make alot of other things unbalanced to each others then.

Like for example. If you buff the Blasters damage by like 10-15%, then you have to buff active tanking, and if you have to buff active tanking, you have to buff passive tanking again. And i can go on with this list for a long time then.

No the thing that IS needed to do, is to nerf the DPS Lasers have at med ranges with Scorch. Lets say nerf the DPS with Scorch for 10% at med range. And maybe nerf the Lasers DPS by 5% in close range, so Lasers isn't in the territory where Blasters is supposed to be best.

And then we need Projectiles boosted to. And when those 2 things are done, then we will have all of the weapon systems pretty balanced to each others.

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Originally by: NightmareX

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Originally by: Caleb Fury

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Oh it's Nightmare X. No need for me to reply.

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Oh, why not?.

I'm not even sure what your gonna say though.

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Originally by: Majuan Shuo

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Nightmare X is trying to make the "Paper is fine, nerf rock. -Scissors" statement

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